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  Has any body ever read this book "Lamb" by Christopher Moore?

  by ldrnomo in

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  it's a great book if you have a sense of humor about god and christ in fact he quotes voltare in the begining.

  "god is a comedian playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh".

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  Mrs. Witness

  Is that one subtitled "the Gospel According to Biff"? If it is, I've read it a few times. I love it! Mr. Witness HATES it! I think I'll get a new copy and re-read it!!
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  Baptism Questions Question

  by Mrs. Witness in

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  again, against my therapist's suggestion, i got into a doctrinal discussion with mr. witness.

  i told him i'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad).

  anyway, i told him part of it was that i was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings.

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  Mrs. Witness

  You hit it on the nose. Some days are so "normal" and others are just wrong. I don't know where to draw the line. I have trouble because I'm so angry at him and it affects me & the kids so much! I just can't figure out which is better or what the "last straw" will be for me.
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  Joke of the day

  by Tyrone van leyen in

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  an evil witch, had cast a spell on a prince.

  he was only able to say, 1 word every year.

  if he remained silent and skipped a year, he could say two words, and so on.

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  Mrs. Witness

  Two of my personal favorites:

  1. Why was 6 afraid of 7? Because 7-8-9! (you have to say it out loud to get the full effect)
  2. A mushroom walks into a bar. The bartender says "we don't serve your kind here". The mushroom says "why not, I'm a fun guy".

  Ba-dum-bump.
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  Baptism Questions Question

  by Mrs. Witness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  again, against my therapist's suggestion, i got into a doctrinal discussion with mr. witness.

  i told him i'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad).

  anyway, i told him part of it was that i was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings.

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  Mrs. Witness

  Yeah, I did plant a seed one time and it sent him running to his elder (I call him the used car salesman) who gave him a Proclaimers book. I guess he was ambushed by the fact that I knew more about his religion's history than he did. Too bad he got his history from THEM rather than a reliable source!

  Carla, I agree with what you said about therapists. She's a good sounding board, but since I've been going by myself, we've discussed divorce more. Funny enough, we once talked to the used car salesman and, after he stopped talking about himself, almost immediately started talking about a separation and how it's OK because it's in the scriptures. Seems like neither the marriage counselor nor the elder are interested in actually helping to save a marriage!

  One of the things we did discuss was how he can't self-regulate and he needs the borg to tell him what to think, where to be, how to dress, act, blah blah blah. At first he took offense, then he re-stated it and I said "see, you just admitted it, you need them to tell you how to be...you don't even know who you are without the JW label." I think that's the most disheartening part of it all. He's been brainwashed for so long that any independent thought he has is "evil", he really believes it.

  His mom kicked him out at about 15 (such a loving Christian woman, that one). He had been drinking & doing drugs and instead of getting him help...oh, yeah, I forgot, she did get him help...she had some elders come talk to him , she kicked him out so that he wouldn't influence his younger brother & sister. So, of course, he was "dead" in his eyes so he continued to drink and smoke then he went into the service and learned how to be a trained killer. He was good at that for awhile then continued to drink & smoke...this went on for over another 15 years. When we got together, I told him no more booze & drugs. That worked as far as the booze & drugs, but the thought is still there that he can't be a good husband & father without the WTBTS. Our first couple years were horrible because he was trying to convert me and wanted us to be "Super Witness Family"...no TV, no rock & roll, no caffeine or sweet food...and I hate to admit this...in the interest of trying to get along and be a good wife...he convinced me to throw out my extensive Stephen King collection. Finally, when he went back to the WTBTS against my wishes, I lost it and went to the Methodist Church I went to as a child and he about lost his mind...blah blah blah...I'm getting long winded, sorry.

  Basically, my poor hubby is lost to THEM and I am really afraid I can't get him back. I can keep throwing things up to him, but I am convinced it's to no avail. Now I am trying to figure out how to keep my girls from it.

  Thanks for your support & feedback!
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  Baptism Questions Question

  by Mrs. Witness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  again, against my therapist's suggestion, i got into a doctrinal discussion with mr. witness.

  i told him i'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad).

  anyway, i told him part of it was that i was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings.

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  Mrs. Witness

  JGnat, I don't set out to confront him, it just happens. He asked me why I came to JWD and I said "for support, to read others' experiences, and to keep up on the latest teachings (without having to read all the crap in his magazines)". He made some comment about something doctrinal (I can't remember what...I must have blocked it out ) and we fell down the slippery slope into JW land. I just can't let it go when he makes dumb comments about stuff that he's read that is so blatantly incorrect. I really have to work on just letting it go!

  Thanks for the link, I haven't looked at it yet but am going there right now.
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  Baptism Questions Question

  by Mrs. Witness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  again, against my therapist's suggestion, i got into a doctrinal discussion with mr. witness.

  i told him i'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad).

  anyway, i told him part of it was that i was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings.

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  Mrs. Witness

  Thanks Annie! That's it exactly!
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  Baptism Questions Question

  by Mrs. Witness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  again, against my therapist's suggestion, i got into a doctrinal discussion with mr. witness.

  i told him i'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad).

  anyway, i told him part of it was that i was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings.

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  Mrs. Witness

  Hi! Again, against my therapist's suggestion, I got into a doctrinal discussion with Mr. Witness. I told him I'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad). Anyway, I told him part of it was that I was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings. He told me that I should be less worried about the WTBTS because I wasn't married to the WT. It occured to me later that no, I'm not married to the WTBTS but he IS! I want to prove it to him by using the baptism questions...does anyone have a copy to post.

  I'm leaving for the day...I eagerly look forward to any comments that come my way. Thanks in advance!

  Mrs. Witness.
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  "Honey, how was the meeting?"

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. friends

  do any of you with spouse or close family in ask the question?

  regularly?.

  i often ask the wife that question.

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  Mrs. Witness

  Good topic OTWO! I am always tempted to say "how was your meeting" or upon his returning from service "did you recruit anyone today?". I never do, though, because he would either see me as being sarcastic or get into a huge discussion of some stupid topic covered at the meeting that I couldn't let slide. I prefer to be sound asleep when he gets in on Tues & Thurs! And on the weekend, I'm too busy with the kids or gone when he gets home. I am guilty of avoidance, I guess...but to keep the peace, you sometimes do what you have to...
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  Do you think JW's grow and mature as they age?

  by megsmomma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask because my ex, who is still a jw and my 9 year old's dad (hence the still knowing him part) hardley seems to change at all over the years.

  i do know he is now an elder....and he doesn't have time for much fun.

  (they are usually broke and busy with meetings, ect.

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  Mrs. Witness

  My JW might think he's grown up and mature, but really, he's got the mentality of a 15-year-old. It's so hard to discuss things with him because when I use big words , he gets agitated and starts attacking (tho' that might just be a JW knee-jerk response since we're usually discussing JW doctrine...).
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  WTB&TS in Germany Gets Tithes...

  by prophecor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ..... ....directly from your wallet if you are one of jehovah's witnesses.

  it appears according to governmental regulations in germany allow for the fleecing of its adhereants, directly thru levies and tithes, taken from thier members wallets via the government, without having to ask, anymore.

  see section ii, paragraphs 1,2 and 3 of this document.

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  Mrs. Witness

  I think there is a misunderstanding. The way I read it, having the corp status allows the organization/church to have funds withheld from your paycheck if that is what they do...most Catholics tithe, so they might take advantage of the service...and the state would handle the administration of the money and send it to the organization/church. Seems like you would have to give permission for the withholding. Do JW's even believe in tihing?